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09/10/2008, 11:42 PM grand pier Joined on 11/09/2008 Posts 37 old birnbeck pier anyone have memories of the birnbeck pier click the link to show the pier inside and out really great work from stuart campball if you go down the there is a person who knows stuart and he has put another like about barry island its really good with the pics of the old classic games. http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/scooby/jetty2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/scooby/island.htm&h=960&w=1280&sz=405&hl=en&start=64&usg=__hVtpP-tVJxTitW0SymwpKDJg9SI=&tbnid=zYkeoCSCkvVkXM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpictures%2Bof%2Bbirnbeck%2Bpier%26start%3D54%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN click on like hope u like    Report

10/10/2008, 9:22 AM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier You're not Stuart Campbell, as far as I am aware, so why are you pretending to be him...?? That was a link that I posted in another thread, but without all the bits and pieces... As for the new owners, I believe that Urban Splash approved a design in the spring and are in the process of obtaining permissions etc... if they aren't allowed to do anything but restore "as was" it'd be fine by me, but I don't believe this to be the case. Sean ps. I've e-mailed Stuart (the man who ACTUALLY visited Birnbeck) to tell him that this thread is here.  Perhaps he'll visit, perhaps he won't.  But I sure as hell wouldn't want to have somebody laying claim to my writings.    Report

10/10/2008, 11:03 AM AllMouthNoTrousers Joined on 21/02/2008 Weston Posts 906 Re: old birnbeck pier Credit to Stuart, then, because those pictures are fascinating.    Report

10/10/2008, 12:40 PM Sun Tzu Joined on 07/08/2008 Posts 161 Re: old birnbeck pier  AllMouthNoTrousers wrote: Credit to Stuart, then, because those pictures are fascinating. Do I detect a hint of sarcasm?    Report

10/10/2008, 12:44 PM AllMouthNoTrousers Joined on 21/02/2008 Weston Posts 906 Re: old birnbeck pier Not at all! I thought it was very interesting, having only ever really seen Birnbeck from afar.    Report

10/10/2008, 12:48 PM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier  AllMouthNoTrousers wrote: Not at all! I thought it was very interesting, having only ever really seen Birnbeck from afar. I very much agree - it's a fascinating piece.   In case anybody wasn't aware, there are a lot more images than just on that one page - when you see hyperlinks click on them and they'll pop up. Sean    Report

10/10/2008, 7:57 PM grand pier Joined on 11/09/2008 Posts 37 Re: old birnbeck pier  Sean Miller wrote: You're not Stuart Campbell, as far as I am aware, so why are you pretending to be him...?? That was a link that I posted in another thread, but without all the bits and pieces... As for the new owners, I believe that Urban Splash approved a design in the spring and are in the process of obtaining permissions etc... if they aren't allowed to do anything but restore "as was" it'd be fine by me, but I don't believe this to be the case. Sean ps. I've e-mailed Stuart (the man who ACTUALLY visited Birnbeck) to tell him that this thread is here.  Perhaps he'll visit, perhaps he won't.  But I sure as hell wouldn't want to have somebody laying claim to my writings.    Report

15/11/2008, 2:32 AM CFrost Re: old birnbeck pier after reading the stories of the birneck pier it is a same to see it go to ruins i am ashame to be an ex-westoinian now living in vancouver canada who enjoyed the privalage of enjoying the walks  and to see the life boat station during the summer months has any one including the weston town council got any plans to get up and running for the future?

19/11/2008, 10:34 AM CazInZumerzet Joined on 02/08/2008 Weston super Mare Posts 213 Re: old birnbeck pier Having just taken the time to browse this attachment I am full of admiration for Stuart (quite clearly not 'grand pier') for his prose and pictures.  The combination provides us with some lovely writing and fascinating pictures. It's many years since I went to the island and really remember very little of it, but Stuart's visit fills me with hope that something might still be done to save the island before everything gets washed away in 'the big one'.  I recall very clearly going down some steps to the underneath of the island and on to the rocky foundations, to poke about in the rock pools. Many thanks Stuart.   When's the next low low tide then...anyone up for it...? Old Westonians never die, they go out on the tide...    Report

21/11/2008, 10:51 AM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier Hi Caz, If you've ever been to Barry Island (or even if you haven't!) you may enjoy this one of Stuart's too... http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/barry/island2.htm Here's a choice snippet! "But in Barry Island, almost every one of the dozens of coin-pusher machines in the numerous arcades contained a prize I've never seen anywhere else. It's just to the right of centre in the shot, and if you can't quite make it out, you can click the picture to see it in extra close-up clarity. It's a sawn-off shotgun. In fact, to be more specific, it's a gold-plated sawn-off shotgun. Yes, for reasons this reporter is frankly too alarmed to look into too deeply, it turns out that the top toy for 2p-toting toddlers in South Wales is a keychain replica of the lethal weapon favoured by murderous East End gangsters. Kids like guns, of course, but in South Wales they don't choose a cowboy's six-shooter, a WW2 tommy gun or a space death-ray zapper. In South Wales, they aspire to the sort of kit the Kray Twins would have gotten tooled-up with to go and turn over the local Nat West, and I don't mind telling you, viewers, that I suddenly developed a much tighter grasp on the bag with my camera and DS Lite in it. " Nice one Stuart! :-) Sean    Report

25/11/2008, 6:05 PM grand pier Joined on 11/09/2008 Posts 37 Re: old birnbeck pier when i out stuarts work oh here i didnt mean to put it that i did it if i can i will try and edit it but if not i will delete and put the link on sayain that stuart put it on. when i saw the work by stuart on the birnbeck pier i thort it was great but i think its a shame how they have let it go like that. with never going to barry island its nice to se the classic arcade games it would be nice if they put the classic games back in the pier on 1 of the 5 floors of the new pier or like the original things that were in the pier before it burnt    Report

26/11/2008, 9:46 PM Flyer Joined on 17/09/2008 Posts 623 Re: old birnbeck pier I seem to remember reading, back about last June/July 2008, that English Heritage were going to donate about £80,000 to Urban Splash towards urgent repairs to Birnbeck Pier. Does anyone know what's happening?, has the money been transferred to Urban Splash?, is remedial work going to start soon?, are Urban Splash actually going to do the repairs?, will the Pier just fall into the sea?. Anyone, anywhere, anything to report?.    Report

28/11/2008, 11:35 AM MJR Joined on 13/08/2008 Kewstoke Posts 226 Re: old birnbeck pier  Flyer wrote: I seem to remember reading, back about last June/July 2008, that English Heritage were going to donate about £80,000 to Urban Splash towards urgent repairs to Birnbeck Pier. Does anyone know what's happening?, has the money been transferred to Urban Splash?, is remedial work going to start soon?, are Urban Splash actually going to do the repairs?, will the Pier just fall into the sea?. Anyone, anywhere, anything to report?. I think some work took place in the late summer (there were orange diggers on Birnbeck Island and so on).  There are information boards in the car park next to the Prince Consort Lounge but I think they're general Urban Splash project boards, not current news.  I'll try to remember to take the detour and read them next time I pass. http://www.birnbeckpier.org/ is out-of-date (hardly surprising - it's one of Aspire/Isobyte's websites) and http://www.urbansplash.co.uk/birnbeckisland/winner.html says Levitate won, but neither that site, nor http://www.n-somerset.gov.uk/Community/Regeneration+and+sustainability/Weston+Regeneration/birnbeckpier.htm nor http://www.levitate.uk.com/ contain further news.    Report

30/11/2008, 1:03 PM MJR Joined on 13/08/2008 Kewstoke Posts 226 Re: old birnbeck pier  MJR wrote: There are information boards in the car park next to the Prince Consort Lounge but I think they're general Urban Splash project boards, not current news.  I'll try to remember to take the detour and read them next time I pass. Those project boards just show the same info as on the urbansplash website.  Haven't been updated since I last checked, months ago.    Report

28/12/2008, 8:25 AM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier In the spring English Heritage gave money to Urban Splash to make necessary repairs, presumably to stop the thing falling down.  That would, I imagine, be the activity that's mentioned above. In Mid-September Urban Splash laid off a substantial number of people, due to the worsening economic climate. So I wouldn't bet on any of the Levitate proposals seeing the light of day anytime soon, as things are now far worse in terms of the economy than anybody could have predicted when Urban Splash was forced to make redundancies. In my view the proposals are too ambitious.  What would be so wrong with simply restoring the pier as it was?  First thing would be to get the pier itself sorted.  Make sure that the framework is solid, patch it up where it isn't, and then put new planking down.   On the island, raze the derelict peripheral buildings to the ground and shore up the rather fine concert hall.   No need to spend lavish amounts of money on hotels, casinos or whatever.  There will be large amounts of open space on the island initially, but that's not a great issue.  Stick a funfair there in the summer - folks like being out in the open air, it's what seasides are about.  And forget all that mini-golf stuff on the jetty -- just create something practical, so that steamers like the Waverley etc. can visit and tourists can be offered trips out into the Bristol Channel.  Forget all that stuff about regular ferry services from Wales -- no harm having trips from Wales, would be fun, but if you try to do TOO much when there's no money around you end up doing nowt. And as folks flock in (remember, 2009 is going to be a "no Grand Pier year") start raising funds to restore the concert hall (I'm assuming it was a concert hall, may be the wrong term -- the large building that in the 80s had the snooker table in it) to its former majesty. How much would it really cost to fix the pier going to the island and tidy up the island itself so that folks can go on it again?  And basic mooring facilities? In the current economic climate I believe that ambition should be put to one side and reality brought to the fore.  Look at Brighton West Pier!  It's gone now.  Birnbeck Island will never be gone -- it's an island!  You can't easily destroy an island, however hard you try (!).  But once the buildings have gone, and the pier has fallen into the sea the opportunity will have been lost.   Birnbeck will no doubt first sit there as an eyesore, then eventually trees will grow and nature will reclaim the island. Some, I suppose, would like that scenario.  Proper island again. I, personally, think it'd be a waste. Sean    Report

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