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30/09/2008, 6:31 PM CFrost Re: The New Grand Pier. it's a pier we want not a joke. and those designs are a joke.

30/09/2008, 8:53 PM Morticia Joined on 26/09/2008 Posts 11 Re: The New Grand Pier. The Angus Meek one is more traditional and therefore more the sort of thing that Westonians are used to, but I like the idea of being able to go on the roof which the Stride Treglown design offers. I would be interested to see more detail, but I can't be bothered to get out from behind my computer screen to visit the Winter Gardens - any chance the Mercury can tell us what the designs actually contain i.e. hotel, casino, amusements, cinema, charity shops?  And why the eco-theme in all the designs - huge glass solar power panels, ugly wind turbines etc. since when did the Michaels need to save money? Unfortunately I didn't manage to get my crayons out before the deadline, I had an idea which incorporated Lord Archer sat atop a giant donkey.    Report

01/10/2008, 9:27 AM MJR Joined on 13/08/2008 Kewstoke Posts 226 Pier Designs So where's the forum topic for this? What do you think of the pier designs?  It seems that the Mercury vote has two clear front-runners.  My favourite isn't one of them, but they're both good.  Is it coincidence that the front-runners are pictured against blue skies, or is that clever marketing? The BBC and itv local news covered the designs in completely different ways.  The BBC loved Angus Meek's design but itv slated it as "four beer cans" or something like that.  Is that having an effect? Does it matter what the design is anyway?  Aren't the setting and the contents more important than the appearance?  Isn't any pavillion better than an empty platform or the twisted burnt structure?    Report

01/10/2008, 9:30 AM CFrost Re: The New Grand Pier. Bit of a flurry of votes for Stride Treglown this morning! I guess that architect must have a lot of friends, as I can't see many others voting for it!!!

01/10/2008, 9:34 AM Simon Angear Joined on 08/05/2008 Mercury newsroom Posts 196 Re: The New Grand Pier. If it helps people make up their mind which design to vote for, tomorrow's Mercury will feature a comprehensive breakdown of each idea, plus plenty more pictures. Hope that helps! Mercury News Editor    Report

01/10/2008, 9:56 AM CFrost Re: The New Grand Pier. Its important to remember that these are the first ideas - not the final plans. Nothing is ever built according to the first sketch the architect does - they provide concepts and suggestions for a direction, not a final design. So people shouldn't get their hackles up immediately, but should comment on the aspects they like and don't like so that in the end we get something innovative and different. I think there are some really interesting and exciting ideas from the architects. I like the fact that we could have the world's first 'green' pier, with wind turbines and solar panels and so on. I like the suggestions from some that we could walk on top of the pavilion and enjoy the views across the bay. I like the ideas for a monorail or similar rather than an old fashioned land train. I'm a Westonian born and bred and of course I want the new pier to be in keeping with our town and reflect our history, but just compare any of these designs with the old-fashioned piers around Britain - Brighton, Bournemouth, Southport - there would be nothing like in the country, perhaps even in the world. How exciting is that? Talk about putting us on the map. And how refreshing it is that its not all talk - the Michaels will actually make it happen!

01/10/2008, 10:14 AM Clare Hayes - Web Editor Joined on 21/04/2008 Posts 105 Re: Pier Designs All the debate is under the forum 'Weston Grand Pier - fire and future'    Report

01/10/2008, 10:39 AM CFrost Re: The New Grand Pier. the best design i have seen is by angus meek i truely love it and cant wait to see that built if it is approved i think it will add something special to weston's seafront and will attract visitors from all over even my daughter has chosen it as her favourite

01/10/2008, 1:06 PM MJR Joined on 13/08/2008 Kewstoke Posts 226 Re: Pier Designs So why did the link on http://www.thewestonmercury.co.uk/content/twm/news/story.aspx?brand=Westonmercury&category=news&tBrand=westonmercury&tCategory=znews&itemid=WeED29 Sep 2008 16%3A57%3A22%3A060 take me here not there?    Report

01/10/2008, 1:09 PM MJR Joined on 13/08/2008 Kewstoke Posts 226 Re: The New Grand Pier.  Anonymous wrote: Bit of a flurry of votes for Stride Treglown this morning! I guess that architect must have a lot of friends, as I can't see many others voting for it!!! The BBC and itv local news yesterday covered the designs in completely different ways.  The BBC loved Angus Meek's design but itv slated it as "four beer cans" or something like that and were much more complimentary about Stride Treglown's wheel.  Is that having an effect? It seems that the Mercury vote has those two as clear front-runners.  My favourite isn't one of them, but they're both good.  Is it coincidence that the front-runners are pictured against blue skies, or is that clever marketing? Does it matter what the design is anyway?  Aren't the setting and the contents more important than the appearance?  Isn't any pavillion better than an empty platform or the twisted burnt mess? (edited to correct spelling before AMNT gets me)    Report

01/10/2008, 2:11 PM AllMouthNoTrousers Joined on 21/02/2008 Weston Posts 906 Re: Pier Designs It's a general link to the forums, rather than a specific topic, isn't it?    Report

01/10/2008, 2:32 PM CazInZumerzet Joined on 02/08/2008 Weston super Mare Posts 213 Re: New pier designs published - what do you think?  Anonymous wrote: I don't like the designs at all. It should be rebuilt in keeping with the towns history. People don't want modern or space age building. It would ruin the sea front all together.   Sue..... What people Sue?  People just like you perhaps?  This is the 21st century and all over the world people are responding with exciting and innovative designs and ideas of their own.  China's Olympic stadia for example and the work taking place in London in preparation for 2012.   So 'people' of Weston want to remain firmly rooted in the past, I think not.  The Victorians would be ashamed because they were brave and innovative, they pushed the boundaries and thought of the future, not their past.  It's really time the people of this town did the same.  Old Westonians never die, they go out on the tide...    Report

01/10/2008, 2:42 PM AllMouthNoTrousers Joined on 21/02/2008 Weston Posts 906 Re: New pier designs published - what do you think? Caz, MJR, anon - You are all spot on. I had a bit of a whinge yesterday about some of the negative comments that were pouring out, and I'm pleased to see others feel the same. Luckily, the decision ultimately rests with the ambitious and forward-thinking Michaels, not with the likes of Sue.    Report

01/10/2008, 2:52 PM CFrost Re: New pier designs published - what do you think? i think the vote should be for the design by angus meek it is breathtaking and would be great for weston , as i said earlier in this thread my 3 year old daughter loves it and i do to , i hope that this is what is chosen , anyone else agree with me jamie .

01/10/2008, 3:34 PM CFrost Re: Pier Designs I Agree that an empty platform is no good, Angus Meeks proposal is nearly there i think, a bit of fine tuning needed though, as for all the people against modern change well think about this, when the Victorian piers where constructed they where thought to be ultra modern for there time, lets move on with the times i say, in 100 years time all the modern buildings of today will be old hat. lets get Weston into the 21st century with a real statement of design.

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