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24/06/2009, 12:10 PM Flyer Joined on 17/09/2008 Posts 623 Re: old birnbeck pier  zensplanet wrote: what do people really want from Birnbeck, is it the old pier restored or a new futeristic one built. New/old/whatever. People don't want to see the Pier fall into the sea. Refurbishing an existing Pier would be a lot easier and cheaper than building a new Pier. If the Pier does fall into the sea, the chances are that there will never be a replacement.    Report

26/06/2009, 4:20 PM Flyer Joined on 17/09/2008 Posts 623 Re: old birnbeck pier There was a big write-up in a National Daily today, sorry Mercury, about the resurgence of Britain's seaside piers. It showed a photograph of Clevedon Pier, and apparently, it seems that Weston's Grand Pier is "half finished". Unfortunately, there was no mention nor picture of Birnbeck. Poor Birnbeck seems to be off the radar.    Report

10/07/2009, 12:13 PM Flyer Joined on 17/09/2008 Posts 623 Re: old birnbeck pier I see that Birnbeck Pier "might" be up for sale, and that Urban Splash "might" consider offers for the Pier. Does anyone out there know what Urban Splash paid for the Pier. Could not the Mercury run a story on the lines of "what would the public like to see done at Birnbeck ?", all ideas please, to Clare, at Mission Control. There could be a lot of mileage on this story.    Report

10/07/2009, 1:41 PM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier We'll not let that happen... Urban Splash have been a disaster... if they're up for selling it on then let's see if we can mobilise some folks to raise capital to do so.  With an UNAMBITIOUS plan that is workable. As I've said before, the pier itself is the priority to start with.  Get it back into a safe condition and then do things on the island.  It's an island, it won't "fall down"... islands don't do that.  The buildings on them do, but not the islands themselves. One step at a time... Sean    Report

10/07/2009, 7:38 PM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier I will put up a website in the next few days asking for people to pledge to Birnbeck. Watch this space... what we really need is somebody with money AND vision. Urban Splash have provided the opportunity to "do something" -- let's see what we can do.  "Little people" often make things happen. Who is "in"??? Sean    Report

10/07/2009, 8:01 PM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier little people We're not all the Michaels... but we can make a difference... inspiring song.... Sean    Report

13/07/2009, 5:52 PM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier Meanwhile, may I suggest that folks who love the island consider joining the Friends of the Old Pier Society.  They run the shop on weekends and are generally working for the benefit of Birnbeck. Contact appears to be John Stephen on 418653. There are so many people in Weston who want to see the right thing done with Birnbeck, together we can make it happen :-) Sean    Report

13/07/2009, 6:00 PM The Sundance Kid Joined on 29/09/2008 Posts 12 Re: old birnbeck pier  Sean Miller wrote: Together we can make this happen... No you can't. The pier is in private ownership, it's totally inappropriate to be soliciting money on its behalf. Not to mention pointless: A tenner to help fix the old pier? You may as well try to dry up the Atlantic with a cotton wool ball.    Report

13/07/2009, 6:06 PM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier There are two tracks here... one is the FOPS, the other is the idea that somebody might buy the pier from Urban Splash and make miracles happen. I apologise - I will edit my post as you're right, it suggests that my previous posts have something to do with the Friends of the Old Pier which they do not. Would not like to cause any confusion. Sean    Report

13/07/2009, 6:17 PM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier  The Sundance Kid wrote: Not to mention pointless: A tenner to help fix the old pier? You may as well try to dry up the Atlantic with a cotton wool ball. Previous post edited. You don't understand, though... the folks who pay their tenners keep fighting for the pier and, hopefully, at some stage either a private investor or a government agency (eg. the Heritage Lottery Fund, English Heritage etc.) agree to provide the funds to set things right. The thing is, if you really care about something then you do all you can for it.  And that's what the Friends of the Old Pier are all about. And now that Urban Splash have (effectively) put Birnbeck up for sale it is even more important for people to join and see what we can all do together to make things happen... well, that's my opinion anyway... Sean    Report

07/08/2009, 9:54 AM the uncle Joined on 14/01/2009 Posts 80 Re: old birnbeck pier I saw dumper trucks going over with large stones from the beach at low tide during my visit (Aug 5th) It was a very low tide and the causeway was exposed and if the workmen hadn`t of been there I might have quickly popped over before the tide turned. (I know,probably illegal not to mention dangerous,but it would have been one quick pass and then turn back). I read on this forum that some explorer did it and filmed the visit and I`m sure locals who know the tide times have done it. Access apparently from what I`ve read is only during a few exceptionally low tides a year unless of course the actual pier is used to get to the island. Anyway two questions........has the causeway been built up higher to allow access for workmen during less lower tides and has work on the pier started or was just the sea defences being restored?    Report

07/08/2009, 11:50 AM Flyer Joined on 17/09/2008 Posts 623 Re: old birnbeck pier Sometime last year, can't exactly remember when (it's my age). I saw a Volve BM type of earthmover-with tipping trailer, going back and forth Birnbeck along the tide exposed causeway.  I believe, to repair the slipway on behalf of the RNLI. What you saw this week may be a continuation of that work. However, I watched the vehicle trundle back and forth for a while and thought to myself, the tide is coming in, the water is almost up to the vehicle axles, that driver is sailing close to the wind, and then I left.  I discovered later that the tractor stayed too long in the water and was stranded offshore.  Just goes to prove that you have to be careful with tides. I think the Mercury ran a story on it, and there might have been a photograph in the paper. Perhaps our Clare might be able to help ?    Report

07/08/2009, 12:28 PM zensplanet Joined on 16/08/2008 Posts 22 Re: old birnbeck pier Do you mean this digger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dal7deFIoHc it is funny =)    Report

07/08/2009, 5:15 PM the uncle Joined on 14/01/2009 Posts 80 Re: old birnbeck pier  zensplanet wrote: Do you mean this digger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dal7deFIoHc it is funny =) Just one small problem........wrong pier! Though I`m sure you know that. And yes Flyer you are probably right,the dumper truck going backwards and forwards with stones loaded on from a digger (smaller than Grand Pier semi submerged digger) being taken from the beach (Mainland side) was probably for general maintenance and not for pier/island major refurbishment. I still would like to know if the causeway has been made higher though,because presumably that would need to be done before any work could commence otherwise work could only carry on for a short time a few times a year...And no way could heavy vehicles use the pier for access.......not with those rotten planks! David          Report

07/08/2009, 6:38 PM Sean Miller Joined on 02/10/2008 Weston-super-Mare Posts 681 Re: old birnbeck pier I don't think it was a particularly low tide this week, they tend to coincide with exceptionally high tides and that certainly wasn't the case... the causeway is generally exposed at most low tides, it's just for how long... clearly the further out the tide goes the longer it is safe to stay on the island. Sean    Report

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